budgernaut
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Title: The Uncanny One
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Post by budgernaut on Mar 5, 2016 20:32:20 GMT -6
I had to read Tamiyo's Bio on Wizard's site. It is really cool that she's a soratami from Kamigawa (my favorite plane). I hope this means they revisit Kamigawa eventually. They weren't too creative with her name though sora tami, Tamiyo. Eh, whatever. True, the names do sound similar, but in my opinion, "Soratami" isn't all that original either. It literally means "sky people" (in Japanese, sora=sky; tami=people). But in looking at the other races, I think they intentionally used direct translations from Japanese. I've done some searching on Japanese names and Tamiyo appears to be somewhat rare, but it appears to mean "child of the people." But you could also write Tamiyo to mean "many beautiful worlds" which is possibly what her name was chosen to mean since she is a planeswalker (ta=many; mi=beauty; yo=worlds). I'm excited to see her as the  planeswalker if she does return in this cycle of Innistrad. Hopefully as a Soratami, she will bring more flying creatures to the creature arsenal. |
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gideonjura
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Post by gideonjura on Mar 6, 2016 11:21:40 GMT -6
I think the creatures that will be in this next expansion will be :U-wizard(flip), zombie B-thieves, vampire(flip) R cultists, Demon(flip) W- human/spirit(flip), angle G werewolve(flip), spider. The wizard would be a science experiment like delver of secrets or civilized scholar. The human would flip, when he dies, into a spirit like doomed traveler.
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budgernaut
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Title: The Uncanny One
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Post by budgernaut on Mar 6, 2016 19:37:52 GMT -6
If we get a spider, I will flip out with excitement. If they are not unique, I'll buy more than one copy of this set. (I'm an arachnologist.)
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Post by HlRasr on Mar 6, 2016 19:44:37 GMT -6
One figure we need for sure is The archangel Avacyn. Maybe boss level threat ala Eldrazi ruiner with a unique hero for normal play. I know this game is about planeswalkers, but Avacyn is about as iconic as you can get. It would not be an Innistrad set without her.
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Toshi Umezawa
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Title: Hyozan, Clan Umezawa
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Post by Toshi Umezawa on Mar 6, 2016 19:52:05 GMT -6
I still want the cardboard terrain to have grass art. One can only fight in a desert for so long. I'm hopping they don't go with anything else. Although houses or fences for walls would cool.
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Post by kajoq on Mar 6, 2016 22:05:38 GMT -6
Toshi - I highly suggest spending the $40-60 for an RoTV worth of Heroscape Terrain + plastic Ruins. It really bring out the nuance to the squads a lot more and it looks a ton better.
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Post by zackzeta on Mar 6, 2016 22:28:51 GMT -6
i second that.i bought some on ebay and turns out my friend had the original heroscape almost in perfect condition and gave it to me. you can make some beautiful stuff with it. (not mine just an example)  |
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Post by kajoq on Mar 6, 2016 23:02:46 GMT -6
Yeah, that's of course the extreme end. Here's some examples of what 1 RoTV worth of terrain can build though:    |
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Post by NoSorumbo on Mar 7, 2016 9:04:06 GMT -6
If we get a spider, I will flip out with excitement. If they are not unique, I'll buy more than one copy of this set. (I'm an arachnologist.) Agreed!!! I. LOVE. SPIDER. UNITS. Although, on another note, I bought more than one set so that when I play with a friend, I can give them one set to build their deck and army and I build my own and we don't see what each other are doing... For example, if he wanted to play Kiora and I wanted to play Nissa, we could both choose the same Army Cards... Just a thought to consider (while the base game is still around $21 on amazon...) |
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Post by Yawgmoth on Mar 7, 2016 10:31:45 GMT -6
I suspect that fall this year will be like fall last year - with Amazon getting it a month or two before every other retailer. My guess is that Amazon will have it in July or August. Gen Con is in August. I'm betting it wouldn't be before that.
Although the promo poster just mentions "Stay tuned for additional details this Fall..." It doesn't mention anything about a fall release. Maybe it's actually planned for a Holiday release or something.
The game released early on amazon last July 1st, so its defi itely within the realm if possibility for it to release prior to gencon. Gen con release dates are ridiculous anyways. Most people who play game never attend, yet some parts of the community and especially the industry seem to be held hostage by the idea of its relevance. |
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Post by kajoq on Mar 14, 2016 11:09:38 GMT -6
Nahiri Spoiled as a  /  planeswalker.  |
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Toshi Umezawa
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Post by Toshi Umezawa on Mar 14, 2016 13:40:07 GMT -6
I had to read up on yet another Planeswalker as I have not been following along with the newer lore. This is a story about Nahiri, Sorin, and, Ugin. For those of you who are familiar with the lore wouldn't it make more sense to trap the Eldrazi on a "evil" plane like Phyrexia/New Phyrexia. 
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Post by HlRasr on Mar 14, 2016 17:45:03 GMT -6
Maybe to use the eldrazi to destroy the phyrexians, as the eldrazi could be one of the few things that can remove the phyrexian oil (My theory as to why Bolas freed the eldrazi). But to trap the eldrazi in new phyrexia would not work. On top of dealing with eldrazi spawn, you would have to deal with an entire united plane trying to kill and assimilate everything that intrudes. Another reason I do not believe it would have worked, the phyrexians are also known for being able to kill anything. It is like a science to them. I honestly thought the "unstoppable" eldrazi were going to win on zendikar only to lose to the phyrexians down the line.
Also, Innistrad is not evil. There is a horror theme for sure, but evil is subjective. A vampire is not evil because it is a vampire. Vampires feeding on humans is no different than a lion eating a gazelle. Sorin made Avacyn to ensure that the lions do not run out of gazelles. No evil anywhere in that situation, just a weird take on "nature"
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Toshi Umezawa
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Post by Toshi Umezawa on Mar 14, 2016 18:17:04 GMT -6
Perhaps I should have used a different word, something similar to "destructive". I had ruled out planes like Innistrad because even though inhabitants would be hostile towards Walkers and others that live in these planes, they don't have a destroy this plane or other planes attitude. Sorin also said he didn't want to have it destroyed. I already knew why, like you said it still has a "food chain" like approach that is still found on all other planes. I'm not a complete pacifist. If it needs to happen it happens. After all, it is impossible to save every organism in the multiverse. I just thought that maybe they should have tried on a more hostile plane. One with less creatures of the "squishy" defenseless against Eldrazi variety.
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Post by HlRasr on Mar 14, 2016 20:30:40 GMT -6
Grixis was a shard of Alara, which basically acted as a plane. But then the conflux happened and Grixis is more or less a continent on Alara now. I thought Zendikar was chosen for its naturally high amount of mana that could be used to trap the eldrazi. Being a home plane was only to ensure home field advantage in the game plan to seal the eldrazi. Its hard to say who would have an advantage on the eldrazi. They basically sap magic away from everything. Angels are powerful but fall easily to the eldrazi because an Angel is pure mana. The eldrazi eat mana. I imagine a sentient snack (angel) running towards a hungry fat man (Ulamog) as an apt comparison. Demons are powerful and numerous on Grixis / Innistrad but they would lose just as bad since Demons are pure  mana. I think only massive humanoid armies really stand a chance. I don't know if the zombies in Innastrad are animated by magic, and once the eldrazi sap the magic, the zombie bodies just drop... |
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Toshi Umezawa
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Post by Toshi Umezawa on Mar 14, 2016 20:58:57 GMT -6
"We can imprison them, Bind them to one plane using their physical forms as anchors, and force them into dormancy. Unlike killing them, that might actually work. And it would give me time to study them without allowing more worlds to fall." said Ugin. "This plane would be sacrificed?" asked Sorin.
"Risked, certainly," said Ugin. "But the means by which we cage the Eldrazi will also serve to put them into stasis. If we succeed, the world that imprisons them would be damaged, but not destroyed. If we fail, then yes, it is doomed. But it was doomed anyway." "If you would prefer not to put your own world in danger, we can take the time to find another plane that meets our needs. If it is defended by a Planeswalker, we convince its guardian to cooperate—by force, if necessary. If it is undefended, we simply begin." said Ugin.
Ugin is fairly old so I figured he have a better plan as to where to bind them. In the end it worked out for Zendikar, but Nicol Bolas freed the Eldrazi later after the Planeswalkers prisoned them. It's writing like this that makes me not enjoy the post-mending material.
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Post by zackzeta on Mar 15, 2016 9:48:52 GMT -6
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budgernaut
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Post by budgernaut on Mar 15, 2016 11:46:15 GMT -6
So with Sorin being / (historically), and these two new planeswalkers also being dual-colored, I'm getting the feeling all the planeswalkers in this new Magic set will be dual colored. If that's the case, will it transfer over to AotP? Maybe. Maybe not. But seeing as Nahiri and Arlinn are both , my hope for a new Tibalt is starting to wane. It seems unlikely they'd add so much . |
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Post by HlRasr on Mar 15, 2016 12:14:44 GMT -6
I agree that there would be too much if Tibalt gets made now. This comes as a shock to me, as nothing about Arlinn Kord is . I can see the  , But her backstory implies that she has spent more time trying to control her werewolf curse than anything else. Her ability to control the curse over time is very . She seemed to me. She may have come to terms and embraced her werewolf curse, but that does not make her . Especially if she can control her curse. Self control is not . When she was introduced, she withheld her pack from feeding on the pair of detectives. Werewolves of course are primal creatures that are driven by instinct and hunger while in a werewolf form. Another reason she is not . Embracing her werewolf side would have made her stay in werewolf form and enjoyed two tasty detectives. But she didn't, so she is even less . The backstory does not match her colors at all. |
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Post by zackzeta on Mar 15, 2016 12:23:25 GMT -6
i think its just because werewolves are and so they wanted it to fit in. from what i remember i dont think theres much difference between the colors except maybe that has more "bad"looking people while has more civilians and soldiers but also has an old man and a blacksmith so idk. |
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planeswalker if she does return in this cycle of Innistrad. Hopefully as a Soratami, she will bring more flying creatures to the 
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mana. I think only massive humanoid armies really stand a chance. I don't know if the zombies in Innastrad are animated by magic, and once the eldrazi sap the magic, the zombie bodies just drop... 
, But her backstory implies that she has spent more time trying to control her werewolf curse than anything else. Her ability to control the curse over time is very