Thadius
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Post by Thadius on Feb 5, 2019 1:29:47 GMT -6
Couple of questions regarding ranged attacks when including elevation,
1. Should melee attacks be possible if the elevation difference is greater than 1? My thinking is that the elevation difference would put melee weapons out of range. 2. When there is a large elevation disparity, especially when using the Cryptoliths, should there be a range penalty for weapons when firing uphill? I would think that a range penalty of 1 for every 2 (maybe 3) elevation difference when firing up hill.
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Arcanis
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Post by Arcanis on Feb 5, 2019 3:53:46 GMT -6
Hi Thadius . Within the rules there is not a distinction between 'melee' attacks and 'ranged' attacks, rather a figure can only attack another if it is in a clear line of sight and within its range value (even if that is 1 space). There are, however, some rules which are relevant here. When a figure is engaged with one or more other figures, it can only attack figures with which it is engaged. Two figures are engaged if they are in adjacent spaces without obstacles blocking their line of sight (e.g. the ruins). When two figures are on different elevations they will be engaged unless the figure at a lower elevation has a height less than or equal to the elevation of the other figure (where that figure's base is). The rule book gives an example of this with Chandra (who has a height of 4) standing next to terrain 4 hexes high. She is not engaged with the figure on top as a result. This means that when a figure is on top of a cryptolith, the only way another figure can become engaged with it is if it stands on an adjacent cryptolith (so they are at the same height) or if the figure is the eldrazi ruiner (it is tall enough to reach the top of a cryptolith). In combat, the attacking figure rolls dice equal to their  and the defending figure rolls dice equal to their  . When there is a difference in elevation, the figure who is at a higher elevation (measured according to where their bases are) rolls an additional dice as a height advantage. The way the statistics of dice rolling works, this already adds a decent advantage to the figure at a higher elevation. I hope this answers your question. If you have any further queries, please don't hesitate to ask. |
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Thadius
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Post by Thadius on Feb 5, 2019 6:52:38 GMT -6
I've read the stated rules, the lack of differentiating between range and melee, and the range of elevation are holes that I'm trying to fill. I'm looking at putting a little more combat reality into the game. By the stated rules, even though there is a clear difference in distance between the base and top of a tower, the range is still only 1. I think that is kind of short sited.
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Arcanis
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Post by Arcanis on Feb 5, 2019 7:45:21 GMT -6
Perhaps making range a purely two dimensional aspect was a bit short sighted. To avoid complicated formulae, you could play that adjacent attacks are not allowed above the figure's height?
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Post by Targanth on Feb 11, 2019 15:18:38 GMT -6
A typical human figure in AotP is usually 4 hexes tall. If the human figure happened to be modeling a 6 foot tall figure, that means a figure standing on a hex is standing about 18 inches higher than the base. I think that 18 inches is still melee distance, which is what the rules state regarding adjacency.
Once the base of one figure is standing on a hex that is above the head of another figure, the figures are no longer adjacent. When the figures are not adjacent, then melee attacks are not possible.
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Post by John M on May 14, 2020 11:10:01 GMT -6
Then figures whit range 2X can attack a figure on the top of the cryptoliths and vece versa ? figures whit range 2X can attacks a figure at the battlefied from the top of a cryptolith ?
Sorry for my english
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Post by Targanth on May 17, 2020 18:26:36 GMT -6
If there was a figure with Range 2, it could attack a figure on top of a cryptolith that was 2 spaces away. A Range 2 figure on top of a cryptolith could attack a figure below if it was within range.
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and the defending figure rolls dice equal to their 
. When there is a difference in elevation, the figure who is at a higher elevation (measured according to where their bases are) rolls an additional dice as a height advantage. The way the 
