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Post by Yawgmoth on Jun 30, 2016 13:15:38 GMT -6
We can expect to see some more in depth reviews by this weekend. Or next weekend at the latest.
While I have not seen any copies locally, I have seen a pic of a Barnes and noble with it on the shelves. Odd that, since I've only seen battle for zendikar only at TRU and nowhere else.
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Post by smutteringplib on Jun 30, 2016 13:49:57 GMT -6
No common squads yet. Come on EMN mini expansion with commons and terrain!!! There's a Target and a B&N near each other in my town. I'll check both after work. Edit. At the end of the article, they say 24 figures. By counting the squad cards in the pic and adding the Heroes and PWs, we can conclude that the squad that we haven't seen yet will be a 4 figure squad. Unless I did something wrong...
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Post by Yawgmoth on Jun 30, 2016 14:53:19 GMT -6
No common squads yet. Come on EMN mini expansion with commons and terrain!!! There's a Target and a B&N near each other in my town. I'll check both after work. Edit. At the end of the article, they say 24 figures. By counting the squad cards in the pic and adding the Heroes and PWs, we can conclude that the squad that we haven't seen yet will be a 4 figure squad. Unless I did something wrong... Possibly. The reviewer said there was a squad of two werewolves. But then again, there may more likely be multiple squads of two rather than a 4 man squad. Those were fairly uncommon in Heroscape, and as yet unprecedented in Arena. There is no sighting of a hero yet. There was not one in the last expansion either. I hope doesn't get a 4 man squad. needs no help. But 9 models in the windows (5 Planeswalkers models, 4 heroes) and if each of the five colors gets a 3 man squad, then that would equal 24. But since the reviewer said that got a two werewolf squad, then there must either be another hero, another two man squad (perhaps as rumored?) Or a color got a 4 man squad. Not enough info in this review to know.
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Post by Aurore on Jun 30, 2016 15:15:33 GMT -6
By my count, from slight viewings of the cards and the images there is currently:
Box Front:
Jace
Sorin
Nahiri
Arlinn
Arlinn (Wolf)
Hero (Avacyn)
Hero (Necro-Alchemist) (Nicknamed "Geralf")
Hero (Ghoul Vanguard) (Nicknamed "Gisa")
Hero (Mad Prophet)
Images:
Squad: Kessig Rangers (x2)
Squad: Bloodline Nobles (x3)
Squad: - (Lunarch?) Inquisitors (x2 confirmed, potentially x3)
Squad: Skirsdag Cultists (x3)
Total # of figures: 19 Confirmed, 20 Potential /24
From what I can tell, the Werewolf squad "Hunt At Dawn" ability looks like they might be able to transform. (If so, that might be worth no hero, Earthen Arms notwithstanding) Assuming, like Arlinn, they get an additional 2 figs to represent that, is open to a squad of 3, maybe 2.
I'd say from that, it's likely that gets 3x squad and gets 2x squad, since is the only mono-color and this set can be played standalone. Sorin & Nahiri ( PW) both have another color to splash to make up for the thin ranks, so it seems unlikely that the mono- PW will only have three figures OOTB, when Nahiri, Sorin, and Arlinn would each have 4+ depending on unit costs.
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Post by Yawgmoth on Jun 30, 2016 15:33:58 GMT -6
Good, logical point. I wonder now how the spells will be divided. It comes with 48 cards, which is not divisible evenly by 5. Though it is divisible by 6... Perhaps there are spells now? Or perhaps multicolored spells? If multicolored, I wonder if your Planeswalkers must exactly match the colors, or if any Planeswalkers who matches at least one may use them?
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Post by kajoq on Jun 30, 2016 15:50:55 GMT -6
Good, logical point. I wonder now how the spells will be divided. It comes with 48 cards, which is not divisible evenly by 5. Though it is divisible by 6... Perhaps there are spells now? Or perhaps multicolored spells? If multicolored, I wonder if your Planeswalkers must exactly match the colors, or if any Planeswalkers who matches at least one may use them? More importantly, It's divisible by 4; The number of Planeswalkers we have included. four 12 card decks. I almost hope we -dont- see multicolored spells yet as there's no benefit to them, It just restricts those spells to a very specific Planeswalker. I'd totally be down for, and think we should see.
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Post by smutteringplib on Jun 30, 2016 16:11:29 GMT -6
I expect: 12 cards 12 cards 12 cards 6 cards 6 cards. In a 4 player game Jace gets 12 , Sorin gets 6B 6W, Nahiri gets 6R 6W, Arlinn gets 6R 6G. I think they will keep it as simple as possible to play straight out the box.
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Post by smutteringplib on Jun 30, 2016 16:35:29 GMT -6
I just opened the link on my phone and all the images are cropped differently. Interestingly enough, this let me read the entirety of Nahiri's army card. I can't figure out how to paste the image, so if someone tells me how I can do it. But here it is: Nahiri, Fury in Stone Life: 7 Move: 4 Range: 4 : 3 : 4 Abilities: Bulwark: Nahiri gets +1 while defending with a height advantage. Pass Through Stone: After moving Nahiri for the first time each turn, you may move her to a space of equal terrain elevation within (blurry number, probably a 4) spaces of her. If you do, you may roll the 20-sided die: 1: Deal 1 damage to Nahiri 2-15: Nothing happens 16-20: Deal 1 damage to all adjacent creatures
Lithomancy: At the start of the game, place 2 single hex sand tiles on this army card. After moving, Nahiri may place 1 of those tiles on a non-water space Nahiri occupies. (Interesting they say "Nahiri may place" instead of "you may place." Floral Spuzzem anyone?) Medium 4 Cost: 345
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Post by Aurore on Jun 30, 2016 16:39:52 GMT -6
Personally I'm hoping for
12 (duh)
9 3 (Sorin)
9 3 (Arlinn)
6 6 (Nahiri)
So we can have a more even distribution.
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Post by Yawgmoth on Jun 30, 2016 16:45:43 GMT -6
Good, logical point. I wonder now how the spells will be divided. It comes with 48 cards, which is not divisible evenly by 5. Though it is divisible by 6... Perhaps there are spells now? Or perhaps multicolored spells? If multicolored, I wonder if your Planeswalkers must exactly match the colors, or if any Planeswalkers who matches at least one may use them? More importantly, It's divisible by 4; The number of Planeswalkers we have included. four 12 card decks. I almost hope we -dont- see multicolored spells yet as there's no benefit to them, It just restricts those spells to a very specific Planeswalker. I'd totally be down for, and think we should see. But what if, for example, a / spell may be played by either a Planeswalker, a Planeswalker or a / Planeswalker? That makes the utility and playability of spells drastically increased by being inclusive instead of exclusive. Still playable out of the box, and makes integration into the rest of AotP better and more fair by not giving the 'ultimate powah' over other colors by having a larger spell pool to select from. Just a thought and some wishful thinking on my part.
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Post by smutteringplib on Jun 30, 2016 16:49:24 GMT -6
But what if, for example, a / spell may be played by either a Planeswalker, a Planeswalker or a / Planeswalker? That makes the utility and playability of spells drastically increased by being inclusive instead of exclusive. Just a thought and some wishful thinking on my part. That seems like a big enough change that they would have mentioned it in the article while talking about the decks.
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Post by Yawgmoth on Jun 30, 2016 16:51:15 GMT -6
True, but so does remarking on the rest of the contents too, which is conspicuously missing. Or we wouldn't be chatting about it.
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Post by smutteringplib on Jun 30, 2016 16:53:53 GMT -6
True, but so does remarking on the rest of the contents too, which is conspicuously missing. Or we wouldn't be chatting about it. It's so tantalizing, isn't it? They gave us enough that I am very interested and excited, but not enough to tell us everything. We know it comes with 3 crystoliths and at least 2 single hex terrains, but they tell us NOTHING else about the terrain.
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Post by Aurore on Jun 30, 2016 16:55:07 GMT -6
With how the article seems made (it's almost impossible to read the full skills of any of the cards, for example) I feel that it was made very clear by someone else what subjects should and should not be discussed about the product. Still, I don't think this is the set to introduce hybrid or multicolor cards. I expect that for RTRT Ravnica.
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Post by Yawgmoth on Jun 30, 2016 17:02:36 GMT -6
Either way, I sincerely hope they did not include more of one color than the others, if all spells are single colored. Especially for . It doesn't need the buff, and would make the spell pool egregiously lopsided for the game as a whole. Which seems very counterproductive to the longevity of the game where options are slim at best.
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Post by smutteringplib on Jun 30, 2016 17:06:01 GMT -6
Either way, I sincerely hope they did not include more of one color than the others. Especially for . It doesn't need the buff, and would make the spell pool egregiously lopsided. Unfortunately, it seems like they have to. is the only monocolored walker and according to the rules your deck must be 12 cards. So unless there are multicolored or cards, is going to get 12 cards and there is not enough space for the other colors to get a full 12. Hopefully if they do a EMN mini expansion the other colors will get more cards and we'll finally see a hero.
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Post by gideonjura on Jun 30, 2016 17:09:17 GMT -6
hey just curious if you compare the two starter sets, Innistrad looks slightly larger. The board however is the same number of tiles 8x6. If the box is bigger and we have 11 fewer figures whats filling that space? the crystoliths?
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Post by Aurore on Jun 30, 2016 17:12:24 GMT -6
Either way, I sincerely hope they did not include more of one color than the others. Especially for . It doesn't need the buff, and would make the spell pool egregiously lopsided. Unfortunately, it seems like they have to. is the only monocolored walker and according to the rules your deck must be 12 cards. So unless there are multicolored or cards, is going to get 12 cards and there is not enough space for the other colors to get a full 12. Hopefully if they do a EMN mini expansion the other colors will get more cards and we'll finally see a hero. Sadly, if they do EMN, we'll likely get Liliana, and more importantly, Tamiyo, in it, which means more and cards, and less chance for a hero. Unless one of them becomes part .
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Post by smutteringplib on Jun 30, 2016 17:24:27 GMT -6
Unfortunately, it seems like they have to. is the only monocolored walker and according to the rules your deck must be 12 cards. So unless there are multicolored or cards, is going to get 12 cards and there is not enough space for the other colors to get a full 12. Hopefully if they do a EMN mini expansion the other colors will get more cards and we'll finally see a hero. Sadly, if they do EMN, we'll likely get Liliana, and more importantly, Tamiyo, in it, which means more and cards, and less chance for a hero. Unless one of them becomes part . Like the BfZ expansion, they could have squads and cards not related to the PWs included.
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Post by Aurore on Jun 30, 2016 17:31:11 GMT -6
Sadly, if they do EMN, we'll likely get Liliana, and more importantly, Tamiyo, in it, which means more and cards, and less chance for a hero. Unless one of them becomes part . Like the BfZ expansion, they could have squads and cards not related to the PWs included. True, but BFZ expansion was a single set uniting both BFZ and OGW, and thus had to include a lot more Zendikar material in it. If EMN comes out, it would be right on the heels of SOI, and only focusing on a single small set, unlike BFZ, which included a small and a large, so idk if it will have the same amount of support, since after this set there isn't much of Innistrad left that for including other than some of the Emrakul mutations. If there is the same level of support, then Innistrad support would be nearly half the amount of stuff for the game so far. (of course, anything's possible)
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